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Those cartoons [Feb. 2nd, 2006|10:56 pm]
Peter Sheil
Here are a couple of those cartoonms everyone is getting worked up about :-

There is more at http://www.di2.nu/files/Muhammed_Cartoons_Jyllands_Posten.html (although the page was very slow loading).

Personally I'm quite happy with the two I've posted here, or I wouldn't have posted them. I can see why the first one on the linked page might upset some people, but I think it would be wrong to ban free speech on this subject.


[User Picture]From: becky44
2006-02-03 01:38 am (UTC)
If all the religions claim to be peacefull, let's have an end to this insanity of missionaries and converting people by the sword - which is what they all do! Let people choose their own religions/beliefs!!!

The other thing is that we have a secular society and a thing called freedom of speech! Maybe the religions should ask themselves what it is they're doing wrong to ignite the need to create cartoons aboutt he religions and their major characters? God knows - we've had cartoons lampooning the Bible for many, many years - and nobody's got up in armsabout it and threatened all kinds of hell! The Vatican might 'tut' a bit - but it doesn't call for boycotts etc... it understands - which is an amazing thing in itself!

People will gravitate to the religion/beliefs that they need for themselves to be able to function - let's have teaching and learned discussion of these things - not the insanity of impossing a belief structure. All that shows is a severe immaturity of the concerned religions - maybe they'll grow up one of these days? But I'm not holding my breath!

PS - I've noticed a tendency for the bigots in this world to hijack religion for their own ends - they're the ones causing most of the problems! Problem is that my methods of dealing with bigots are likely to be regarded as a 'touch excessive'!!!
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[User Picture]From: spodlife
2006-02-03 09:04 am (UTC)
He is a brave man. His website is a bit slow too. Best og luck to him.

Obviously his cartoons don't shock me because I'm not a follower of Muhammed, and I've seen more biting satorisation by Ted Rall and guardiantoons.
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[User Picture]From: loreeley
2006-02-03 10:43 am (UTC)
I don't think they are that bad - from all the talk about it, I imagined far worse before seeing the photos. But... I do think it is very insensitive and, even though I wouldn't call it racist, I don't think it is the kind of jokes people should make. I feel that to joke about religion is very difficult because so many people take it very seriously and will feel offended/attacked/hurt. Joke about your own religion if you must, but not about other people's.

Also, it is particularly offensive to muslims because representing Allah is not allowed and in fact a very serious thing. Also, one isn't supposed to represent the the Prophet's face. Did the author not know that? Then he really should have done is research better. If he knew and went ahead of purpose, no wonder people feel offended.

It must also be said that you didn't show the imagine which seemed to cause most offense, showing Mohammed with a turban bomb.
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[User Picture]From: motherwell
2006-02-03 01:26 pm (UTC)
Those who are offended by jokes about their religion need to be reminded that they have the same right to ridicule right back.

Besides, racism and other bad attitudes don't go away because we ban their expression -- they just go underground, assume the saintly mantle of persecuted victimhood...and catch everyone by surprise when they pop up again despite everyone's best efforts at suppression. Like they say about science, the best remedy for bad speech is more speech.
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[User Picture]From: sadgirl0
2006-02-04 05:11 am (UTC)


Hi! It's me! Sarah Doyle! Rachel's daughter. I'm somewhat grown up now. Kinda scarey isn't it? When will you come to visit us again? It's rather fun when you visit.
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