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News [Apr. 26th, 2002|11:35 am]
Peter Sheil
* Universe in 'endless cycle' *

Two scientists put forward a new model to explain how the cosmos is and where it
might be going.
Full story:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/-/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1951000/1951406.stm
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From: pixie_lv
2002-04-26 03:51 am (UTC)
Makes sense... still my brain tends to melt when I read on cosmology. They should find what makes it go in circles and let me know a.s.a.p. or else I'll be pondering on it all weekend.
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[User Picture]From: petersheil
2002-04-26 04:07 am (UTC)
The problem is trying to define a system from within the same system :)
It always leads to a paradox (or several) - in fact I remember
someting about any system capable of describing something useful must
have a paradox within it.

Even if you have a religious belief it doesn't actually help solve the
fundamental problem - what created everything. If you use God as your
creator then you just put the creation problem back a level - who
or what created God? Even imagining a "circular" universe in which everything
is enclosed (if you go far enough in any direction, including time, you get back
to where you started) doesn't solve it ... where did the framework of this
universe come from?????

Drives you nuts if you think about it for too long :) I just concentrate
on my own small part of the space-time continium and keep trying to make
it a better place. Even that seems like an impossible task some days.

Anyway, enough dumping :) I'll get back to "real" work for a while :)
Peace
peter
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From: pixie_lv
2002-04-26 05:15 am (UTC)
Religion makes it quite illogical.

I remember now, as a kid I used to think about the infinity of the space and it almost made me cry because I couldn't comprehend the infinity.
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[User Picture]From: petersheil
2002-04-26 05:38 am (UTC)
Do you still feel like that about infinity?

I'm more accepting ...but then to get a Maths degree you
have to deal with different infinities - some of them
are bigger than others :) If you actualy want an explanation
I can give you one based on a hotel with an infinite number of
rooms ... :) but I won't bore you with it unless you actually
want it. (I'd probably have to look up some stuff 'cos I don't
use any of the infinities in my day to day life and they all
get a bit blurred with distance)

Ahh college days *goes of into the past and eyes turn glazed*
(and that's got nothing to do with the fact I had a pint
and a half of beer for lunch :) )

p
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From: pixie_lv
2002-04-26 06:12 am (UTC)
No, I don't cry about infinity anymore ;o) I reckon my infinity-related headaches ended when my mother showed me Moebius tape, or something like that... I'm long since grown up (am I? whom am I kidding now??) and can't remember details. But I still love to read explanations, I don't think I've ever heard your hotel one. Will I need a pint before?
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[User Picture]From: petersheil
2002-04-26 06:35 am (UTC)

Re:

No :) a clear head is better. I don't have time
to send it now, but I'll add it to my to do list and try and get it done soonish :) I'll e-mail you directly rather than doing it on LJ if that's OK?

The Moebius strip or loop is fun. Also look at illustrations by M C Escher (sp?) they will blow your mind as well - and the guy drew them all by hand - amazing.

p
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From: pixie_lv
2002-04-26 06:40 am (UTC)

Re:

We had them on the walls of classroom at school... Escher's pictures I mean. Loved them.
my email is pixoid@btopenworld.com
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[User Picture]From: petersheil
2002-04-26 06:55 am (UTC)

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