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Protect your PC ... maybe [Aug. 17th, 2004|02:17 pm]
Peter Sheil
As of Wednesday Microsoft will be shipping Windows XP SP2 from their update site - you may even get it downloaded without having to do anything if you've set up your system to do so (a mistake in my opinion).

Here is the article on the BBC's site about it
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3571110.stm

... and here is the Microsoft knowledge base article including all the programs which will stop working when you install SP2.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=842242

Also see http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130 (thanks Tom).

Peace
peter
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From: gorgeous_yulia
2004-08-17 06:43 am (UTC)
thanks for the links. this i interesting. :-)
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[User Picture]From: petersheil
2004-08-17 06:44 am (UTC)
You like my "Athens 2004" T-shirt?
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From: gorgeous_yulia
2004-08-17 06:48 am (UTC)
eh?
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[User Picture]From: petersheil
2004-08-17 06:51 am (UTC)
The icon on the original post and this comment. It's me in an olympics T-shirt my sister got me when she was there one (or was it two) year(s) ago.
:)
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[User Picture]From: petersheil
2004-08-17 07:05 am (UTC)
or here is a close up of it ... I think ... I can't actually tell 'till I post this :)
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From: gorgeous_yulia
2004-08-17 11:39 pm (UTC)
Ahhh I see. Nice one.

I want to get a T-shirt from 1980 Olimpics in Moscow. :-)
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[User Picture]From: petersheil
2004-08-18 12:59 am (UTC)
I went on google.co.uk with the search string "olympics +moscow +1980 +T-shirt" and got 2200 odd entries - the initial bunch seemed to be e-bay stuff. Maybe that would help?

peace
peter
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[User Picture]From: petersheil
2004-08-18 01:06 am (UTC)
(http://www.bornintheussr.com/misha.htm) might actually get you straight to your T-shirt :)

Good luck
peter
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From: gorgeous_yulia
2004-08-18 01:23 am (UTC)
you are brilliant. cheers :-)
hehe may look for one over here first, but one of these Moscow Teddies are definately cool and needs to move to my flat :-)
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[User Picture]From: petersheil
2004-08-18 01:53 am (UTC)
:) google is your friend ... unless you shop too much:)

T-shirted peace
peter
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From: eyefallalone
2004-08-17 07:07 am (UTC)
Heres the new list of basic consumer used programs that 'behave diffrently' using sp2.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130
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[User Picture]From: petersheil
2004-08-17 07:19 am (UTC)

Re: hmmm.....

Ahh yes, your a Mac user ... my sister has had to change printer and now some spreadsheets print all scrunched up. Any ideas?
[Yes, I know it's an impossible question to answer, but any ideas appreciated before I try and do some remote debugging on a system I know nothing about :)]
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[User Picture]From: petersheil
2004-08-17 07:45 am (UTC)

Re: hmmm.....

You had exactly as much info as I had :) I did say it was impossible didn't I? I'll ring her in a while and see what state it's in.

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll see if they make any sense to her :)
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[User Picture]From: petersheil
2004-08-17 08:05 am (UTC)

Re: hmmm.....

Mac OS 9
Printer now HP Deskjet 3650 (was Epsom something??)
Microsoft Excell 9no idea version)

She went through some install drivers stuff off a CD that came with the printer but "the printer icon isn't in the thinggie in the top right hand corner where the old printer was" [my sister is a bright cookie (or she wouldn't be in the job she is) but she's not the most computer literate person in the world :) ]

problem was that a spreadsheet printed out all scrunched up when she tried to print out just the first page ... and no I don't know what other testing / options have been tried. She's not going to be using it again today, but if you have any ideas (or questions to ask her) then I'm open to suggestions :)
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[User Picture]From: petersheil
2004-08-18 07:10 am (UTC)

Re: hmmm.....

I blindly copied the text from that post into an e-mail to my sister. Just got this from her:-

YIPPEE!
Am printing like a mad thing. Say huge thank-you to Gary for me.

Mary


So ... erm ... THANK YOU

Seems like you fixed it for her :)
Thanks from me too.
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[User Picture]From: petersheil
2004-08-19 12:49 am (UTC)

Re: hmmm.....

Do you do Mac support? Can I point her to you for any future questions?
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[User Picture]From: petersheil
2004-08-19 01:05 am (UTC)

Re: hmmm.....

OK, ta. I'll pass that on to her.

The computer is just a tool for her - she is actually running music courses at something or the other attached to Kingston PolyUniversity so she is more into the music side of things.

Peace
peter
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From: eyefallalone
2004-08-17 08:30 am (UTC)
This is new.
Microsoft is claiming that they made sure no programs work for a reason.
The programs listed do not work because they utilize specific ports and the whole concept of sp2 is to secure all ports used in windows.
They only want specific ports open by having the companies test out their product then send in which port needs to be opened for that product. This way ,in theory, only the ports needed by important programs will be open disallowing any virus or trojans access to your computer and edventualy gaining complete conrtol of your pc.

I believe they went about this all wrong, they should have only release sp2 to specific companies first insted of allowing the general public access to it. People are just being caught in techinal mumbo jumbo.
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[User Picture]From: petersheil
2004-08-17 09:00 am (UTC)
Well you can look at this two ways.

Firstly Windows is supposed to be something the non-technical can just turn on and run. In that case they should have done a hell of a lot more testing against individual programs. I mean... don't their test machines use any of the listed programs?

on the other hand using a fire wall does require a bit of technical knowledge. Should I open a port as a program is requesting or is it mal-ware trying to subvert my computer? I'm a technical sort of person but even I get bemused by some of the possible settings in my Norton firewall. In that case only the technically competant should be allowed to own Windows :)

I'd edge towards the second of those - you have to have a licence before you can use a PC ... there's a thought although enforcing it would be fun :)

Peace
peter
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From: fruitbatz
2004-08-17 11:03 am (UTC)

easy remedy

I found an easy remedy for the Microsoft SP quirks after SP1....i dont install any of them anymore. they are a pain in the ass!
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[User Picture]From: petersheil
2004-08-18 12:39 am (UTC)

Re: easy remedy

well ... the trouble with that is that a lot of the fixes are security related and by not installing some of them you are leaving yourself open to attack by viruses. Ok, strictly speaking that should be attack by worms, as they are a different spieces of "animal", but you know what I mean. Particularly some of the changes to Internet Explorer - without the fixes any website can take over your PC if it is coded to do so, either by a malicious author or by someone breaking into the site. Personally I now use Firefox iso IE and I'm quite happy with it. I think on my work machine I shouldn't have made the change, but hey that's their problem not mine :)

Peace
peter
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From: fruitbatz
2004-08-18 04:17 am (UTC)

Re: easy remedy

i dont use IE6 anyways, i use Avant ....good morning!
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